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	cycle start	filled days	comments	last comment
2nd pp cycle	27.12.2009	47	80	17 of February, 2010 16:34 MAPlondke
1 cycle pp	23.11.2009	35	36	26 of December, 2009 16:16 MAPlondke
2 - 11mths pp , no cycles yet	06.11.2009	19	11	24 of November, 2009 23:33 MAPlondke
1	29.07.2009	101	13	03 of November, 2009 15:25 ingabire

	shortest	longest
Cycle length:	17 days	100 days
Luteal Phase:	14 days	14 days
Menses length:	0 days	0 days

	earliest	latest
Beginning of Post Ovulatory Infertility:	23 cd	23 cd
Onset of first mucus symptom:	0 cd	0 cd
Onset of highly fertile mucus:	0 cd	0 cd

My stats (last 3 cycles).
Don't take into consideration the last (current) cycle.

Sources
Detailed descriptions all of issues

	earliest	latest
Temperature shift:	21 cd	21 cd
The preterm day of temperature shift:	0 cd	0 cd
Peak mucus day:	0 cd	0 cd
Cervix peak day:	0 cd	0 cd

	Form / Selection	Reading place
Cycle length	Create new cycle Edit cycle	Cycle length
Luteal phase	Chart analysis / Luteal pase	Beginning of luteal phase
Menses length	Chart analysis / Statistics	Menses length
Beginning of Post Ovulatory Infertility	Chart analysis / Fertility days	Beginning of Post Ovulatory Infertility
Onset of first mucus symptom	Chart analysis / Statistics	Onset of first mucus symptom
Onset of highly fertile mucus	Chart analysis / Statistics	Onset of highly fertile mucus
Temperature shift	Chart analysis / Raise temperature	Higher Temperatures position nr 1
The preterm day of temperature shift	Chart analysis / Statistics * Only Kippley and Roetzer methods	The preterm day of temperature shift
Peak mucus day	Chart analysis / Cervix and mucus peaks	The day of mucus peak
Cervix peak day	Chart analysis / Cervix and mucus peaks	The day of the cervix peak

Cycle

The first day or normal bleeding is recognized as the beginning of the cycle. Spotting (single brown secretion drops, not bloody) is included in the previous one. The cycle begins on the first day of normal bleeding (not spotting) and ends in the day before the next bleeding eg 28, 30, 33.

Luteal phase

The luteal phase is a fase of higher temperatures associated with increasing levels of progesterone. The first day of luteal phase is the day when progesterone increasing. Luteal phase starts day after ovulation and should stay from 12 to 16 days. Other sources give a value of 10 days as minimum length.

Beginning of Post Ovulatory Infertility

This is the day on which the conception of a child is not possible. That period/time is characterized by a relatively consistant length, how to determine that time depends on the chosen NFP method and your experience.
What to start from and how to do the chart analysis on your own?

Cervix peak day

The day of cervical peak is the last day on which cervix was located in the highest position, the most open and soft.
We consider that day retrospectively, ie after observations in the day trends to close, hardening and reduction of cervix position the cervix peak we set preceding day.

Mucus peak day

We consider that day retrospectively, ie the next day when we observe dispapperance fertile mucus, we determine the preceding day as mucus peak. Depending on chosen NFP method the cervix peak + 3 days ends fertile phase.
The day of mucus peak is the last day in which mucus had one of characteristics higher fertility (transparency, elasticity, slippery, humidity).

Temperature shift

Temperature increase (temperature shift) - starts phase of higher temperatures which is continued untill the next period (10-16 days).
We can recognize it when three consecutive undisturbed temperatures are higher than the preceding six measurements. The third measurement should be higer at leat 0.2 C degree of the highest teperature from that six misurements before shift.
What to start from and how to do the chart analysis on your own?

Thermometer:

bbt

Interpretation Method:

Own

Category :

I'm postnatal

Place of measuring temperature:

oral

Legend: CD - Cycle day; M - Menses; Int - Coitus (intercourse); CFA - Cervical mucus appearance; CFC - Cervical mucus consistency ; VS - Vaginal sensations; IO - Internal observations; Cx - Cervix ; Bse - The icon reminding about monthly breast exam self-check

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MAPlondke wrote 05 of August, 2009 22:38

HI!

I’m Mary from the F&F boards…I just thought that it would be easier to do this here.

What do you not understand with your chart? From what I can see, It looks like you are doing a super job!

Feel free to friend me and ask any question that you might have.

Loving my family. :)

ingabire wrote 06 of August, 2009 07:53

Hi Mary ,

Here is my question --- about a week before i started temping . I had one day of super stretchy mucus – about 4" and i was pretty sure i had ovulated but these temps are all over the place

What do you think is happening ? Am 8 months postpartum with no cycles yet

MAPlondke wrote 06 of August, 2009 14:34

I doubt with one day of mucus that you are ovulating yet, especially if you are still BF on demand. For some women just nursing one time a day is enough to suppress ovulation for several months.

My cycles came back at five and a half mos PP. For about two months prior I had a day here and there of EWCM, so I knew that ovulation was coming. The week before I actually ovulated (and I am pretty sure that I did, but unfortunately was not temping that week b/c we were out of town) I had 5 days in a row of constant flow of EWCM. It just would not go away. The week after that my temps had leveled out at the higher level and about 5 days later I had my first PP period.

So, I do not think that you have ovulated yet based on the temps being erratic. Before my first ovulation PP, my temps would be (as an example) day 1: 97.7, day 2: 96.7, etc. until I had ovulated and then they settled around the 97.8 mark for 5 days. So I still had a LPD but I know that I had in fact ovulated before I started to cycle again.

Hope this helps! PP charting can be difficult, but it can be done.

Loving my family. :)

ingabire wrote 06 of August, 2009 17:02

ok thanks -

Think i will keep up the charting . It has been difficult but if i have done it 6 months i can continuue right ?

MAPlondke wrote 07 of August, 2009 01:58

Just keep with it! That’s about all you can do at this point.

Pay more attention to your mucus and you will be fine, the temps will only tell you when you have ovulated.

Loving my family. :)

MAPlondke changed 28 of October, 2009 14:08

No indication of ovulation yet, but you are having some mucus fluctuation. It may be coming in the near future.

Loving my family. :)

MAPlondke changed 29 of October, 2009 19:46

You should put your chart in the „I’m postnatal” category. It will give you some more options for charting fertile phases. It will let you chart multiple fertile times and peaks. I forget, are you still breastfeeding at all?

Loving my family. :)

ingabire wrote 29 of October, 2009 23:12

Hi Mary ,

yes am still breastfeeding – three times during the day – at 6am , 1pm and 7pm as well as throughout the night
Will drop the 1pm feeding session when my son is 1 year

ingabire wrote 29 of October, 2009 23:35

still breastfeeding – three times a day and all night

MAPlondke wrote 01 of November, 2009 15:06

Man, I wish that I could get my DD to not nurse at night. She’s 20 mos and there seems to be no end in sight. Sleeping would be nice.
Ok, since you are still breastfeeding you more than likely will have a LPD when/if you get your cycles back. You might not get them back until DS actually weans totally. My mother is an example of that. So, honestly, I would not be too worried at this point. Just keep track of the mucus to see how long the fertile type lasts. If you are not feeling the slippery sensation yet with the EWCM you more than likely are not fertile. Your temperatures are also still too erratic to be normalizing out as well.
I hope this helps! I know how frustrating the return to fertility can be.

Loving my family. :)

ingabire wrote 02 of November, 2009 07:48

Sorry about your DD — i remember feeling like that
with oDD ..

i co-sleep with ds so breastfeeding at night is okay with me --
maybe in another couple of months i will not like it so much :-(

MAPlondke changed 03 of November, 2009 15:02

Yeah, we don’t co-sleep anymore. At around 14 mos we had her permanently in her own bed. She was just WAY to hot and sweaty sleeping with us and she woke up more too. I think she actually likes her bed better. But she still likes to wake up and nurse a couple of times a night.
It does look like you might actually begin to cycle here sometime soon, your mucus patterns have changed a lot. Hopefully soon we will see the temp confirmation!

Loving my family. :)

ingabire wrote 03 of November, 2009 15:25

Yeah i hope so —

This ambiguity is just killing me
Cycles would be good :-)
AT least then things would be clearer

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